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tromana ([personal profile] tromana) wrote2008-05-04 11:50 am

Review: DW S4. 'The Poison Sky'

Well... talk about your big reset button ending - that didn't make sense. I KNEW the skience would bug me this week. Blowing up a portion of the atmosphere would lead to dead planet, not just clearing the gas. Also the chain reaction for igniting the whole atmosphere happened rather fast yes? It could've fizzled out y'know - would have been interesting to see what he'd have done if it did. Probably just set the machine off again elsewhere...

I did however, like the resolution's effect on people - they'd stopped being so reliant on cars. It does seem that RTD and co are taking it as their personal task to hit us over the head with morality stick each week. Weight, guns, global warming etc. I'd rather good, solid storytelling came first then moral lessons came second. I watch DW to be entertained, not to be told what a bad person I am/might be.

The death of Ross - he was an okay character, one of the nicest of the new UNIT crew. I predicted the mourning on here, as last week there was a lot of Ross-love going on on el-jay. On the subject of UNIT-ness. They mentioned the Brig!! Oh that made me so happy. Shame he was 'stuck in Peru'. Hopefully they can 'un-stick' him for a future episode!

Rose second... hm. Yes, we get she's coming back. The more you show her, the less excited I'm going to be. Sorry. And I wasn't all that excited to start with - more scared. Did notice that she was mouthing 'Doctor' though.

Martha's clone... all she did was press a button. And that's exactly what the Doctor WANTED her doing. So the point of all that was? Except we did get that nice scene of Martha with clone and Martha's clone accessing memories of her family etc.

Donna hit the Doctor... as she should. Loved the contrast between her response to his survival to Martha's. All occurring after the totally-expected redemption scene for the annoying kid. I don't think anyone would be seriously blinded enough by their 'genius' to have no love for their family. He annoyed me just as much this week, so when he died, it was just kind of 'whatever'.

The new-look Sontarans bugged me even more this week. Especially the voices. I couldn't love Wilf any more. Oh my, he's adorable. And Sylvia with the axe, that was good. And Donna with the hammer on the probic vent (I think something runs in that family with heavy objects).

Basically, there were things I liked. But as a story as a whole, I think this 2-parter was probably the weakest out of the stories broadcast so far this season. But I think Helen Raynor's done better this year than last though.

I've also learned never watch the 2nd part of a 2-parter with people who don't watch Doctor Who and/or didn't catch the first part. You have to explain everything.

Oh and brief rambleness about next week: If Jenny doesn't have a mother's name confirmed, she's automatically Romana in my mind. In fact she's automatically Romana until proven otherwise. Oh yes. 

Watched the Androids of Tara and the Horror of Fang Rock afterwards, though. I didn't think Androids was confusing - in fact it's probably my favourite KTT story - but I had to explain so much. And my Who-hating friend liked Horror - mainly because of Leela and the fact the entire supporting cast died.

[identity profile] jo-mako.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
Re: The Brig. I screamed in joy! Thankfully I live with Who fans or it would have been ugly. Sir Brig! >>>> All y'all!

Re: Rose microsecond. Someone pointed out that she isn't screaming 'Doctor', but 'Donna'...interestink...

Re: Romana Jr, showing up next week. THIS IS TRUFAX!

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: Rose microsecond. Someone pointed out that she isn't screaming 'Doctor', but 'Donna'...interestink...

Hm... must watch again. They are similar-ish words. If it's Donna... that confuses me even more. HALP.

[identity profile] jo-mako.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] hollywoodgrrl apparently spotted it. And it would make sense kinda...at the of PiC, Rose looked like she knew who Donna was, and she had the sad face thing going before disappearing. I am interested in seeing where this goes...

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
If Jenny doesn't have a mother's name confirmed, she's automatically Romana in my mind. In fact she's automatically Romana until proven otherwise.

Most deffinatly!!! All the Doctor/Rose shippers want her to be Rose's daughter, and a tiny part of me wants that too, but I just cannot see that happening. Romana on teh other hand, MOST DEFFINATLY!!!!

And oh how I squeed when the Doctor mentioned the Brig! So much that I missed the following lines. And again when Rose was on screen.

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it next week yet?

Why did the Brig have to be stuck in Peru? When they said that I was annoyed. Still think they should have him in there somehow...

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol! I'm really hoping next weeks episode will be good. I'm already annoyed that I'll be watching a Martha episode on my birthday. I'll be sooo disapointed if its a cop-out. (Although Jenny being Romana's daughter would make my whole year!)

I completely missed that the Brig was in Peru. Who said that?

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, but Martha gets KIDNAPPED on your birthday and doesn't want to be there herself. Erm... I can't spin that any other ways, I'm afraid. And at least you get an episode on your birthday. The series ends a few days before mine, provided we have no break for Eurovision. Yeah. Now I'm out.

I will disappointed if it's a cop out too. After all, Susan is his Grand-daughter... so he's already a father anyway.

Colonel Mace said that the Brig was a Lord and 'stuck in Peru' after the Doctor mentioned him... I still say bring him back!

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol!!! Very true. I'm sure I will enjoy it (as I expect I will be completely drunk slightly tipsey at the time.

One of my housemates was completely shocked when the Doctor said that was his daughter, and was surprised when I wasn't. I had to explain to her all about Susan. I went into complete geek mode!

Ohh I forgot to mention before, did you think Destiny of the Daleks when they burnt the atmosphere?

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol!!! Very true. I'm sure I will enjoy it (as I expect I will be completely drunk slightly tipsey at the time.

lol! Good for you.

Woah... I think I've always been vaguely aware of Susan... even before I was properly into fandom. And before I saw serials with her in.

Ohh I forgot to mention before, did you think Destiny of the Daleks when they burnt the atmosphere?

No I didn't :-(. The Movellans had more style over it, I think. They were certainly more controlled with how they were going to do it - and it would have killed everything. Like it should've done.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, I won one of the magazines on eBay, just waiting for the other one. ^_^

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Which number magazine did you win? I won number 341. I'll type up the Lalla parts for you when I get it.

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Won 341, bidding on 340.

If I win the other one, I'll type it up. Find out in 4 days.

And I've just finished another fic, just waiting for my beta to go over it. (Then you'll get another 3...)

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Hehe we won the same one! I really want to bid for 340 to, but since I know you are bidding for it, I'll just keep my eyes open for another copy. Im also bidding for 271. One day left!

Another 3 fics?! *dancing with excitment*

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Is the 271 the one that's up to like £5-ish now? I think we've been bidding against each other!

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes it is.

*falls about laughing*

Its upto £5.96. I'm winning at the moment :) hehehehe.

I just lost out on one of the 'In Their Own Words' issues. It went for about £13!!! The magazine only cost about £5 in the first place! heheh.

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahaha... well I've left it alone now. So, hopefully you'll get it unless some other unknown person comes in and steals it off you.

I can't believe the prices In Their Own Words go for now. I paid £11+p&p for my copy of Volume 3, which wasn't too bad, all things considered.

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll be very annoyed if some unknown person steals it off me!

Gosh thats a lot! Makes me glad I was able to buy my copy in Tenth Planet in London. Unfortunatly, they don't have part 2.

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I meant including P&P. >_<

The TV and Movie Store don't stock magazines, so I can't really pick them up anywhere bar eBay. Even though their stock is 60% Doctor Who. I love visiting that shop, it makes me quite gleeful.

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I've just found a website where you can buy the BBV audio with Lalla and John Leeson for only £3.99!!!!! I'm very excited!

http://www.galaxy4.co.uk/search.php?str=Lalla%20Ward&page=1

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG.

*buys*

Thank you!

(ack you have to spend at least £10)

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I noticed that too. I'm upto £8.99 and theres nothing else that I desperatly want!

But! But! BBV!!!!!

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
What you after? 'Cause I could cancel this order and add those onto it and you can buy them off me...

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm going to wait till tomorrow, see if someone out bids me for that magazine. If they do, then I can add that to my order and be over £10. If not, then I might take you up on your offer (if you don't mind waiting till tomorrow night)

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, that's fine by me.

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I can't believe I found that audio! Completely by accident!

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't believe you found it either! There's 2 though, isn't there?

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. The Choice and The Search I can't seem to find the second one on that site. I'm hunting for it though!

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Cool!

Have you got the latest DWM? It says that Big Finish doing another audioseries of the KTT with the 5th Doctor and a new companion. I'm feeling slightly outraged at the concept!

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't got it yet. None of the shops in Hatfield sell it *mutters something angerly* But I heard about that through one of the comms here. I would be annoyed with that except the new comapnion is named after me! (well I like to think that) Finally someone in Doctor Who with my name! Amy is such a common name that I'm surprised its not used more often in TV.

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
True!

I wonder if I'd be more sympathetic if she was called Tracie? (I'd be even less sympathetic if it was any of the variations, believe me).

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 01:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just looking forward to the Doctor/Amy fics that will hopefully follow! hehe *is huge geek*

Btw, I got a response from Galaxy 4. They only have the one BBV audio.

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 01:08 pm (UTC)(link)
hehe. Well, if I listen to it (I probably will out of sheer interest - it is KTT afterall) I'll see what I can do...

Btw, I got a response from Galaxy 4. They only have the one BBV audio.

Oh you're kidding me! I'll be hearing from them soon, too then. Have they said anything about restocking?

[identity profile] sneakyangel.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 01:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohhh thats not what I meant!!! I meant that they only have that one audio, The Choice. They don't have The Search. They said that that series has been discontinued and they are selling their remining stock at discounted prices. I guess its ebay again for the other one!

hehe I'm glad you picked up on my subtle hint there! hehehe

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, well now I feel slightly thick. But yes, definately need to keep an eye on other sources. I haven't seen them come up on eBay as yet. We may be in for a long wait...

[identity profile] tromana.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 01:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Just checked my junk mail... it says mine's been shipped. o_O

If you don't manage to get hold of a copy, I'll upload you the audio.
ext_3965: (10 Hugs Real!Martha Animated TPS)

[identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com 2008-05-04 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Donna may have thwacked his arm, but she totally hugged him when he saved her from being shot by the Sontarans !

[identity profile] teenytinyghosty.livejournal.com 2008-05-05 11:32 am (UTC)(link)
"Well... talk about your big reset button ending - that didn't make sense. I KNEW the skience would bug me this week. Blowing up a portion of the atmosphere would lead to dead planet, not just clearing the gas. Also the chain reaction for igniting the whole atmosphere happened rather fast yes?"

I kind of assumed that it was a special machine he created... because he didn't just send up any old thingamajig that could ignite the gas, he sent up an "atmospheric converter" which in some magical Gallifreyan-ey science way probably only burns up the clone feed gas.